Posts by Separation of Powers

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New requirement to become an Elder or Ministerial Servant!

by hardtobeme in

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it has been a few months since i hear this from an elder.

he said that the c/o told them this new requirement.. "men that wanna be an elder or ministerial servant has to go out to field service on sundays.

if there is an elder or ministerial servant that is not going out to field service on sunday can lose the priviledge".

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Personal position of the CO....there is NO new directive

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UNCONFIRMED RUMOUR - GB Member DF

by notsurewheretogo in

did you see the post on reddit?

unconfirmed naturally and just a rumour but at at one assembly this week it was announced that the 6 members of the gb send their love.. .

there are 7 members of the gb.. .

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@ NSW2G

"My post was to discuss what effect it would have on dubs still in if it were true. "

Well, I believe that they would start by saying, "you see, it can even happen to one of the GB. The Bible says, "let he that is standing beware that he does not fall."

or

"Looks like Jehovah is performing a sifting work even in our time..."

or

"I knew that guy was kind of flakey, he probably had tight pants, colorful socks, SPANXX, and a wife that he couldn't pick up."

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Since Elders And Mini Servants Have To Be Exemplary How Does Anyone Ever Qualify?

by minimus in

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it seems to me that you must be almost perfect to be a " servant" in the organization today.

no college, no spiritually weak in the family, no disfellowshipped living at home, no tight pants, etc......who can live up to their lofty ideals?.

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Its like a kickball game in grammar school. The popular kids pick the other popular kids and the rest go play tetherball.

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Are All Christians Appointed as a Watchman?

by Chris Tann in

this is a question i have been trying to answer.

at the branch visit yesterday, morris discussed eze.33,about ,how if we do not preach we are bloodguilty.

i would like very much people who are well informed on this topic to show me a thorough scriptual answer.

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Ask some of the old timer bethelites on this site about the watchmen at bethel and how they used to carry weapons.....

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Overlap what???

by dugout in

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just out of the blue i asked my wife whos been a jw for some 30 odd years can she explain the overlapping doctrine.

she said to me she never heard of this and said she will have to look it up.

i thought oh s#^%!.

I did, in fact, respond to his question. But, that wasn't the point of my post. His response sums up what every hard core witness now believes and that is....whatever the ORG says. If the ORG says "tight pants" are bad and that is the most important thing to know, then the hardcore says, "That's right!"

As for the response that I might have "wanted," well, to tell you the truth, it was the response I was expecting. No argument, no matter how well presented or planned can break through the dissonance of one so engaged.

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can someone give me thier opinion on matt 11 11?

by sowhatnow in

i dont get it.. who is being spoken about?

first of all wouldnt moses be greater that john the baptist?

and yet im greater than john?

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Not difficult.....John was the precursor, the announcer of Jesus, the messiah. So, he was a BIG DEAL in the fulfillment of messianic prophecy. As great as he was, though, he was still simply gonna be another recipient of salvation and eternal reward. If you notice the context of Matthew, there are those that approach Jesus, sent by John. John was a BIG DEAL to them. He was their teacher, much in the same way as Jesus had his followers. So, they ask him a question and that question originated with John, in other words, JOHN wanted to know, "Are you the one who is to come, or should we expect another?"(Matt 11:3) You see, as much as John knew about Jesus, he wasn't sure...

Jesus, then, in order to solildfy his Messiahship and help those followers of John, said what he said in Matthew 11:11. In essence Jesus is saying, "John, as great as he is to you guys and in the fulfillment of my messiahship, he is still no greater than any one of you who accept the kingdom. In fact, he will be the least...."

As much as the ORG tries to paint the picture that he will be part of those that get resurrected to earth and thus lower than anyone in heaven, the New Testament does not speak of any such thing. If you are a Christian there is one hope....go to heaven that's it.

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why didnt God just do this?

by sowhatnow in

for one thing, i cant get past genesis, but no matter.. when god told adam and eve if you eat from the tree youll die.

so why did he not simple let them die and not allow the offspring to?.

you see, if i was a god, and i told two people that, id let them die , .

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There was no adam and eve.......it is a story....the baseline story to distinguish the Jewish nation...... it is a myth...

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What really woke me up: I started noticing most JWS are weirdos..

by kneehighmiah in

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thankfully my parents are converts so they aren't wierd.

seemed pretty popular by all accounts.

they are "popular" jws even now.

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I agree with Blondie and several of the others, there are wierdos everywhere. However, I do agree that there are A LOT of wierdos in the ORG. That is mainly because they find people that are susceptible to their indoctrination. People on the margins, people on the fringe, people suffering loss or loneliness....You take that kind of a person susceptible to molding, then you mold them into a drone... and drones are wierd

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Overlap what???

by dugout in

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just out of the blue i asked my wife whos been a jw for some 30 odd years can she explain the overlapping doctrine.

she said to me she never heard of this and said she will have to look it up.

i thought oh s#^%!.

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Back in the 60's early 70's we had the idea that you should be able to "defend" the good news, as absurd an idea as that was. A group of us used to get together to debate doctrine. We were sharp. So sharp, in fact, that we would relish the opportunity to be invited to an apostate sympathizer gathering and pummel the non-believer. Even with some of the outrageous doctrine that we had back in the '70's, and yes,,,there was some really off-the-wall stuff, WE KNEW WHAT WE BELIEVED. That is why many of my generation, the humble ones at least, are scratching their heads at why a lot of this stuff is simply accepted as new light. It is balderdash! Most do not know what they believe in the organization now. They simply nod their heads.

Case in point, I ran into an old friend on Sunday after they had their Regional BRAG fest. He is one of those long time pioneers, used at every assembly, really well-known and respected for toting the party line.

He says, "Hey how bout that Meeting, huh?"

To which I said, "Yeah, good old Morris really dropped the bomb on us didn't he?"

"What do you mean?"

"Well," I said, "I was just amazed that for the first time in the ORG's history, we had over a million people present to be taught at the table of Jehovah and what does he talk about? Tight pants and Spanxx. I mean, with all the issues that we face as an ORG, don't you think he could have spoken about something substantial?"

His comment....and this blows me away..... "Like what?"

There it is in a nutshell.

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wow, shaking my head

by Hortensia in

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my neighbor told me she had been talking about me recently.

"i was saying to carrie in the office i just don't see how anyone can deny the existence of a higher power.

she needed some q-tips, and found a box of them on the free table by the office.

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I am surprised she is impressed by Q-tips....

Ask her to pray for something like winning the lottery.....